Surrey New MINI Owners Club
 
HomeHomeFAQSearchRegisterLog in


click here to visit our sponsors

Share | 
 

 Help with Polishing!!

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2, 3  Next
AuthorMessage
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 17:25

As most of you know, and some have seen, I'm poop at this polishing thing.

So, I wash, shampoo then rinse. I then use 2 microfibre cloths, one to get excess water off, the other to finish it and get out whatever shine is there. Up to this point I think I'm ok. The car looks clean, no water marks, everything is ok.

Then when you look closer I need a polish. Seem to be lights marks pretty much everywhere, bugs that I just can't get off, as well as some bigger scratches!

Now I have a megs polish, and a AG scratch remover. Should these do the trick? Applying with an applicator pad and removing with a polishing mitt?

HELP ME MY SnM FRIENDS! cheers

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 17:32

This is the paint renovator!

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_172339_langId_-1_categoryId_165527

And this is the polish!

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_199087_langId_-1_categoryId_165527

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Moleatrude
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : C'larm and Surrey
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 5673
Points : 6352
Reputation : 212
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 17:41

Firstly Jamesy, I would invest in some clay bars. Once you have washed and rinsed, clay bar the entire surface so that all the minor imperfections are removed. As for removing those stubborn dead flies.....Soak the car in a lake? Not sure!

_________________
SnM001.5 | "Jelly Eating Champion 2010" | DSOC007
Back to top Go down
http://surreynewmini.forumotion.com
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 17:50

I'm OK at washing as well, I find there are so many products I just don't know what to get Razz

Don't forget there are 2 MINI's at my place that need cleaning Rolling Eyes

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
Moleatrude
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : C'larm and Surrey
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 5673
Points : 6352
Reputation : 212
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 17:52

Mind if I drop off a third Shocked Very Happy

_________________
SnM001.5 | "Jelly Eating Champion 2010" | DSOC007
Back to top Go down
http://surreynewmini.forumotion.com
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 17:55

Hey :idea: we could all meet up somewhere and have a massive clean of MINI's :idea:

thumbs up

yahoo yahoo

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
Mini S Mad
Club Endorser 2
Club Endorser 2
avatar

Location : Somerset/Ex w.Sussex
Member Number - SnM : 013
Join date : 2009-08-14
Posts : 9876
Points : 10540
Reputation : 131
Female

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 18:02

I have owner chilli for nearlly 3 years & had to previous car before her & never ever clayed a car. My bruv is 7 years older than me & is a mad on cleaning as me & we bot always washed, chamied, then polished & i am a big fan of aqua wax. I find this always keep chilli hot & spicy & most saw for yourself.

I wash weekly sometimes twice & polish once or twice a month then same prob for the aqau wax & still get the lovely beeding when it rains & thats mainly country lane driving. This obvioulsy varies in the winter but gives you a guide.

The only differnce is all my cars have been supaguarded but my mums corsa is black & she nevers cleans it so it normally left to me. I was told that if i used plety of wax or use the autoglym extra gloss it very simulaur to the protection levels of the supguard. I choose the aqua wax & put this on her car within the first few days & only a couple of times & they had nearlly a year & its still looks fine & beads up well - it obviously doesnt get cleaned as often as chilli but once or twice a month & it always clean up well.

I have looked into clay bars but been slightly frigthened with all the effort to do & for very simuluar results so yet to be convinced.

Hope that helps
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 19:03

Thanks everyone! Very Happy

I'm like you a but Dave, there's so much out there and I've spent a bit already and not got the results so a bit reluctant to spend more!

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
checkpoint

avatar

Join date : 2009-08-21
Posts : 5871
Points : 6252
Reputation : 133
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 19:07

Hi James, here's a very good link to detailing world. You will find everything here about cleaning, polishing, waxing etc. I am a member but don't get much time to surf the suds here! Smile But when I have, I always found some good relevant advice!

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12

Would just say don't try that autoglym renovator until you have used other polishes like the megs crystal shine 3 part polish.
You need a good car shampoo like megs NXT (Halfords) I use this and brings the car up nice! If you have invested in the full megs 3 part crystal shine products (you are only two away now) then after drying car, use the paint cleaner next. Then the polish and finally the Carnauba wax! If you are still not getting the effect you want, I would post up for advice from the detailing world guys! They know their suds! Wink That autoglym renovator is fairly serious stuff!

Hope this helps!

Rob.
Back to top Go down
checkpoint

avatar

Join date : 2009-08-21
Posts : 5871
Points : 6252
Reputation : 133
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 19:16

This is the sort of advice you can get just by having a quick look through detailing world!
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=136520
Question is about what to do for black paintwork.
Answer Posted by Phisp on detailing world.
So far, what have you done to improve the condition of your paintwork? Without pictures it will be impossible for anyone to give an answer I'm afraid.

LSP's (waxes or sealants) are not really going to improve the look of the paintwork - they will add a little bit but they will not make significant changes. It is the preparatory stages, i.e. claying, cleaning/polishing, that accomplish this.

At the very least, invest in a good clay bar e.g. Bilt Hamber, and a good paint cleaner with fine abrasives e.g. Lime Prime. Also, a good tar and glue remover is useful for tackling tar spot and saves your clay

After a good wash and using the T&G where necessary, claying and cleaning the paintwork, especially by machine, should leave only the more serious swirls/scratches.

To go any further, the types of pad/abrasive polish required to remove any remaining defects will depend upon paint hardness, paint thickness, the severity of the defects and how much paint remove should (or should not) be removed
.

This makes a lot of sense to me and advises a little caution too! Some have posted up detailing advice for products for a budget buyer, which is kinda nice! But if you invest in a little time on here you will get some great rewards! Wink

Rob.
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 19:34

Thanks rob. The ag stuff didn't do anything on the marks but I assume it's user error trying to cut corners and making it worse!! Think the tar remover will be a good step to add in. Would the mega step 1 do the same as I do have some spots on the drivers door. Then once it's all off go for the polish (step 2) and see where I am. And are applicator pads and microfibres the best thing for putting on and taking off?

Thanks again

James

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
checkpoint

avatar

Join date : 2009-08-21
Posts : 5871
Points : 6252
Reputation : 133
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 20:00

The Ag didn't touch it!? Wow! I thought that was pretty abrasive I would be scared to use it!

Yep try some bug remover for the bugs! And a good tar remover for the tar spots! they are dark (More noticeable on PW then black I know!Wink ) and may be knobbly. Just run your hands over the paintwork! If you want to clay then you can get some of this
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=132886 Megs do a good kit too!
Whatever clay you get you need to follow the instructions carefully for the best effects.
A clay will bet rid of lots of bodywork contaminants, but not scratches or swirls! Usually done after a good shampoo wash with a good wash mit (turtle wax do a good one) you will need something to lubricate the clay over the bodywork, there are many many detailing lubricants you can choose from and most are fairly dear! But you can use a dilution of shampoo as a lubricant!
Here's how!

Then you need to re-wash the car then do either / or both a paint cleaner and polish before waxing! Remember once you start claying and polishing you are removing the previous paint wax protection, so you need to put this back on, as this helps keep the car cleaner longer. and the next clean to be easier! Wink
But definately use application pads it make it far quicker! Also buy microfibre towels! Lots of big ones! (megs do some big ones)
I'm no expert, but I know this much which gives me a good effect! If your scratches and swirls are deeper, then post up some pics on detailing world for advice! ;

Rob.)
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:26

Thank you Rob! Your a star. I used at ag stuff on bits on the doors, didn't do much so tried the bonnet!! affraid

Didn't do much either but didn't leave a nice finish, so a bit of megs polish got it back to normal, all be it still marked! Sad

But I'll give it a good wash, then have a go at the bits of tar and bugs, then use the polish and see how it goes. I'll give the pads and mitt a wash or get new ones. Very Happy

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:45

James, I've another :idea:

Lets get Rob to give us a demo Wink right your car first then mine Razz

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:48

I'm all for that! Saturday morning??!! Razz

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:50

Jamski wrote:
I'm all for that! Saturday morning??!! Razz

You telling him or me Razz

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:51

Hey you might hit a grand tonight Wink clap :clean:

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:52

Lol, a cheeky ask, but only joking really! Very Happy

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:53

Oh yeah, 6 more now! Very Happy

Your not far away either dave! clap

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:54

Jamski wrote:
Oh yeah, 6 more now! Very Happy

Your not far away either dave! clap

Not tonight though Razz

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:54

Maybe tomorrow! Razz

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
Davyboy
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Location : Ash Vale
Member Number - SnM : 007
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 22411
Points : 24240
Reputation : 589
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   29th September 2009, 21:59

well maybe next week Razz

_________________
dvyby062
"Life's too short not to!!"
Back to top Go down
vickietots
Club Endorser 5
Club Endorser 5
avatar

Location : Surrey, dahling!
Join date : 2009-08-12
Posts : 1464
Points : 1747
Reputation : 181
Female

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   30th September 2009, 09:05

Right I thought I would post my thoughts in here.

Clay bars are not that scary, just use lots of lubricant and you will be fine. Do it in small sections and you will be surprised what contaminents you get off and how dirty the clay bar gets, even if you keep your car clean. Know I can feel when I am getting close to needing to clay bar, normally when I feel Jack's bum! Embarassed :p

I have used AG Super Resin Polish as it is quite mild and also has filling properties, so you aren't getting rid of the scratches and marks, but just filling them in a bit. Unfortunately a black car is the worse for showing marks and swirls. So it might be best to get the detail done by a professional (names of companies can be found on Detailing World) and then you will have a good platform to start from.

I am now using Lime Prime as I found this gives a good shine on Jack.

When polish you have to put a bit of effort and you polish in circular movements which of course goes against the washing and waxing when you do this in straight movements.

As Rob has pointed out, Detailing World is the place to go! Aero (from tM) is on there and a number of other MINI owners (myself included, although I am no expert and haven't posted much), so they can give you advice. There is a MINI social group with examples of MINI (and Minis) that have been cleaned using a variety of products. I know that using this site can be dangerous as I have moved on from Megs and AG to other products, but some of them last ages, so in my mind it is worth it! Very Happy
Back to top Go down
Jamski
Admin
Admin
avatar

Location : Milford
Join date : 2009-08-07
Posts : 6029
Points : 7258
Reputation : 294
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   30th September 2009, 09:43

Thanks Vickie. Just has a quote for a correction of marks, seal and wax and was £495!! affraid

Can't be spending that much, but I'll get back to them and see what I can do! Razz

_________________


Cuddle Monkey- Jack the Black Cooper - 121.8bhp - CB001 - SnM001.5
http://www.jamesaustin.tumblr.com

And Daddy to William
Back to top Go down
checkpoint

avatar

Join date : 2009-08-21
Posts : 5871
Points : 6252
Reputation : 133
Male

PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   30th September 2009, 10:02

This's Gazza's link to a site he is still building. (you'l love this one Cazz! If you haven't already found it!)
http://r52hoot.weebly.com/clean-and-sparkle.html
Gazza is on Tm (Gazzer1UK on TM) and M2 (where I first came across him)
I found Gazza very helpful and quite knowledgable. But most of all a complete Gent! He really does have empathy for us novice cleaners, and explains anything in detail and is very understandable (not much jargon etc)! He has given me loads of advice which I still adhere to!

I was looking at ways of removing fine scratches on detailing world and elsewhere and most of the methods are pretty involved, not to mention jargon based! ie using machines and different grades of abrasive polishes etc! IMO not something I would try without immersing myself deeply with pro-detailing info first! And then I would take a second thought on it! :cyclops:
Maybe he can give you some more detailed and relevant info regarding your scratches James! Wink

All the best

Rob.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Help with Polishing!!   

Back to top Go down
 

Help with Polishing!!

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 3Go to page : 1, 2, 3  Next

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Surrey New MINI :: MINI's, Parts & Mods :: Cleaning & Detailing-