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PostSubject: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 10:16

Morning all

My car went in for an MOT last week and failed because the drivers seatbelt is 'worn' after checking the seatbelt myself a numorus amounts of time i cannot see a single fault with it...

the garage i had the MOT with got rather shirty with me on the phone and were closing when i went to pick the car up and really didn't give me any choice so i took the car home.


i called back the garage and they then told me that they wouldn't even fix the 'worn seatbelt' due to them not wanting to deal with it

i have used this garage for a lot of stuff for my car as and when i haven't been able to afford to get to SVG.

car is now in BMW as i was uncertain as what i could possibly do! so i put it in for a retest.

The only wear i can see on the seat belt is like if you had caught some velcro on the belt and the fibres are a little fluffy, its hard to explain but hopefully you know what i mean, sort of like if it has rubbed a bit on clothes it basically looks spotless.

would this be enough to fail, i mean it looks new?


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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 11:30

Direct gov website says;-

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Problems with your MOT test or certificate


If you are unhappy with the way your MOT test was carried out, or you have lost or damaged your certificate, you’ll need to contact your MOT test station or local Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) office.
What to do if you disagree with your test result
If you disagree with your MOT test results, you’ll need to discuss them with an MOT test station representative before anyone carries out repairs to the vehicle.
Appealing against a failed test result
If you want to appeal against a failed test result, then you’ll need to complete an appeal form ‘VT17’ available from any MOT test station, online or by ringing VOSA on 0300 123 9000.
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Your appeal must be received within 14 working days of the test, and VOSA will need a full test fee from you. VOSA will then offer you an appointment within five days to recheck your vehicle.
If your appeal is successful, then some or all of the test fee will be refunded to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 12:43

Hey my friend Li Smile

Without seeing the belt it's hard to say but I do know if any sign of damage including fraying at the edge will result in a fail!

When you pick your MINI up ask them if they would have failed it? least it gives you an idea whather to pursue or not!

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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 12:50

As is quite common with MOT. test regulations it's a bit vague and at the vagaries of the individual tester on the day.

This is what the MOT. manual says regarding some of the possible reasons for issuing a failure certificate:

1) a cut which causes the fibres to separate

2) fluffing or fraying sufficient to obstruct correct operation of the belt or which has clearly weakened the webbing

3) stitching badly frayed, not secure, incomplete or repaired.

If the damage is not immediately obvious it does sound like the tester is being a bit petty however....
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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 13:05

well you have to really really look at it to see any fibres lifting...
and it is just like something has rubbed against it

However i took the car to BMW and i have had a phone call saying it has passed

2nd time BMW scothall have impressed me... think they are going up in my estimations Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 18:29

Happy days then for you Li, it's a pain you've had to pay out twice though!

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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 18:47

Hi
For anyone who is interested have a look at this link

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MOT%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf

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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 21:48

The section on seat belt wear if minor is open to interpretation. Best get some advise from a friendly garage /tester before considering an appeal.
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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    3rd January 2012, 23:59

First time I've ever heard anything good about Scotthalls! Rumor has it they're shrinking their network now as Stratstone seem to be buying one or two up..

Glad to hear its all sorted though Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    4th January 2012, 21:38

When I had mine MoT'd in November the car in front, a 3 series, was being looked at closely in relation to the bottom arm suspension bushes as there was some play there that was causing the examiner concern, particularly as he was being examined by the DoT inspector!

However the inspector said it was ok so it passed. So there are grey areas.

It is interesting to note that the whole MoT issue is being looked at currently as to how frequent they should be. At the moment it is at 3 years and then annually as we all know. They may go to 4 years and then every 2 years (or some other option). That is the arrangement in Ireland for cars registered from 2002.

Now in Ireland from June last year they test annually if the car is over 10 years old.

In other countries it is different. I understand that in Canada you used to only have to test a car when it was being sold!
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PostSubject: Re: Seatbelt disaster!    4th January 2012, 22:51

There are more additions to be introduced to the U.K. regulations.

From memory some of them include:

Air bags. If the vehicle is equpped with them they must all be present and functioning (i.e no illuminated warning lamps) the tester will ensure the warning lamps light and go out upon start up in the same manner as the ABS is checked. (You wont get away with removing the bulbs!)

Any seat belt tensioner that has deployed will now fail.

Any tyre pressure monitoring system fitted must not be showing a fault.

Any fault showing of a fitted ESC system will now fail.

A cat. convertor fitted as original equipment but now missing will fail.

Weak, leaking or damaged engine mounts will now fail

Loose / insecure / damaged wiring will now fail.

Leaking / insecure batteries will now fail.

The drivers seat fore /aft adjustment mechanism must work and lock the seat in postion.

Rear doors that cannot be opened using the exterior handle will now fail.

Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.

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