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PostSubject: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:26

Is it worth getting an induction kit for my 59 plate Mini one? Will there be any noticeable difference in sound and power?
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:27

sorry to keep sounding the party poopa but check with your insurance, Rob's want £300 just to chance wheels affraid

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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:31

Jaw Drop £300 just for wheels! WOW! They wanted £180 extra for when i get mine! Yeah i know im just considering what is best spending my money on.
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:42

Got anything in particular in mind? Ask the guys at Station View Garage, see if they've done anything to a R56 One before! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:45

i was thinking the K&N Apollo one, but not sure.
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:47

Personally, going back to your first question, I wouldn't have thought the power would go up much to be honest. The sound would be the biggest difference depending on which one you go for.

You also have the option of a drop in filter, but the change probably wouldn't be a great as the whole kit.

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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:54

Yeah i didnt think the power gain was going to be much tbh. I might just get one for the improved sound Smile
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 15:59

Yeh they dont make much performance differnce but defo helped with improved sound
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:24

Power will go down, noise will go up - it's a trade off!
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:25

Power down, really??! Didn't know that, how come??

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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:31

OK being a girlie and blonde to boot, not understanding all this guys Rolling Eyes . I thought an induction kit like the one I'm getting (thanks to Dawn) increases BHP by between 10-20% so in my mind that would mean the power and acceleration go up Question
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:33

Well I always thought it had the potential to increase bhp, but that sounds like a lot Cazz. I would have thought up to maybe 5bhp depending on other mods? But I could be totally wrong.. :S

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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:36

Don't believe the manufacturer's hype - if you are fitting an open filter induction system to a MINI your power will go DOWN. The enclosed panel filter is extremely effective at isolating air from what is a VERY hot engine compartment. An open filter will be sucking in hot air, and hot air = less power.

The standard OEM box pulls air in from a pipe at the front of the car where it is cool. You need serious heat shielding around an open cone filter to get any benefit. K&N Apollo or Typhoon is just a noise machine - since noise adds enjoyment you may feel you are going faster and being sportier, so the placebo effect is often enough to warrant the outlay, but independent dyno checks usually find that the power (hp) is down after fitting one.
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:39

R53 is different, Caz - you have two open vents at back of the engine bay where a cone filter can pull in cool air, and the better aftermarket induction kits isolate every part of the cone filter from the engine with heat shields except the side facing those open vents.

But there are no open vents at the back of the gen 2 engine bay, and it is notoriously hot in there! There's a reason why the stage 1 JCW, the factory JCW and even Challenge cars still work with enclosed airboxes with filters inside!
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:43

Elphaba wrote:
Don't believe the manufacturer's hype - if you are fitting an open filter induction system to a MINI your power will go DOWN. The enclosed panel filter is extremely effective at isolating air from what is a VERY hot engine compartment. An open filter will be sucking in hot air, and hot air = less power.

The standard OEM box pulls air in from a pipe at the front of the car where it is cool. You need serious heat shielding around an open cone filter to get any benefit. K&N Apollo or Typhoon is just a noise machine - since noise adds enjoyment you may feel you are going faster and being sportier, so the placebo effect is often enough to warrant the outlay, but independent dyno checks usually find that the power (hp) is down after fitting one.

That makes a lot of sense now! Very Happy Will deffo just be a drop in filter should I ever do anything. I assume it's the same with the first gen as second?

Thanks! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:46

Not quite - covered above! Yes the best thing is an ITG or pipercross oiled foam panel filter in the OEM air box - increases air flow. You still wont notice a performance change though, unless you are supersensitive! Maybe slightly faster throttle response.
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:47

OK Paul you've now lost me and I need your help to understand. Are you saying the kit I'm buying from Dawn wont fit my 1st gen upgraded model???? Or it will fit but I wont get the performance??? Or is it that it wont fit 2nd gen???

Sorry to be a pain but after reading the manu script got really excited and believed I'd bet getting loads more ooomph and a fab noise to boot.
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:52

1) It will fit perfectly
2) It will have more effect on your gen 1 car than it would on a gen 2
3) You will get more enjoyment from the sound than any performance gain, you may feel you are going faster because you get a sportier noise, and that's good cos it's a safe way to feel sporty!
4) I doubt your car will accelerate faster or noticably so but if it does then go you!
5) It will work better if you get a heat shield for it
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:55

You are awesome Paul thanks so much for this I completely understand this time too cheers Just need to wait until the 12th to pick it up and then vavavooooooommmmmmmmm
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 16:59

as if you are lacking any vavavoom already lol
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 17:09

Cazzywaz wrote:
You are awesome Paul thanks so much for this I completely understand this time too cheers Just need to wait until the 12th to pick it up and then vavavooooooommmmmmmmm

See we got there eventually clap thumbs up

If you want before the 12 i am sure we can arrange something - its up to you Confused

Thanks Paul - well explained - Many thanks Hug clap thumbs up

Yeh i didnt notice any performance gains but the sounds differnce makes up for that thumbs up
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 17:13

Thanks Dawn, sure Oscar can wait another couple of weeks, he's spending most of his life under a black cover right now so I'm sure he will appreciate he upgrade when goofy puts it on xxx

Paul can't have too much vava especially when it sounds good pompom pompom
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   13th November 2009, 17:35

Cazzywaz wrote:
Thanks Dawn, sure Oscar can wait another couple of weeks, he's spending most of his life under a black cover right now so I'm sure he will appreciate he upgrade when goofy puts it on xxx

Paul can't have too much vava especially when it sounds good pompom pompom

If your happy to wait thats not a problem - I will do whats easiest for you hun Hug I know i have no patience so thats why i offered lol! but having said that i have waited a long time for my gtt version & my pirate eyes lol!

I think that will finish oscar of nicely - As Paul said its worth seeing if Gofy can sort/make a heat shield for it fingers crossed
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   19th March 2010, 13:36

Hi all,

I've got an r56 One. Could someone please link to a drop in filter for it to make it sound a bit nicer. Smile

Much appreciated!
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PostSubject: Re: R56 Mini One induction kit?   9th May 2010, 21:42

Elphaba wrote:
"the best thing is an ITG or pipercross oiled foam panel filter"

I was thinking of a drop in filter, do you not rate K&N? Which is best!
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