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PostSubject: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 20:10



So what's the difference with these new lights over the standard Xenons? Are these the active ones?.
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 20:28

Just black housing
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 20:45

So why they made such a point to write dual Xenons on the housing, and the salesman ( using the term loosely as has just moved from Volvo to MINI 5 weeks ago ) said they were active lights that turn with the steering wheel?
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 21:00

I can't see dual xenon on there, only bi-xenon?

Bi-xenon's use the xenon bulb for both normal beam and full beam, there's a mechanical change with a projector that happens within the light, which reflects the beam differently. If you listen very carefully while the car is stationary, flash your headlights and you'll hear a sort of clunk, that's the projector moving. Normal xenons (on the 1st gen's) used a xenon bulb for normal beam and a halogen bulb for the full beam.

The active lights aren't available with the black housing, only the normal silver housing, and they beam moves with the angle of the steering wheel, effectively allowing you to 'see round corners'.

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 21:05

This thread explains too - http://surreynewmini.forumotion.com/t5810-what-is-the-difference-between-bi-xenon-headlights-and-not?highlight=xenon

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 21:19

Ok so I remembered it wrong and you are quite correct it did say bi-xenon rather than dual Xenon but the sales guy was wrong to say they moved with the steering wheel! So would these be the same as fitted to my R56 61 plate (but in silver rather than black?)
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 21:46

Great thread I wanted to know this to so would the bi xenons fit on Sapphie straight swap if she's just got normal xenons NON adaptive? 

Emup the lights moving with steering is called adaptive headlights & yes these WONT FIT as there's no black alternatives. You can tell if you've got them I got told/found out either by your housing the inner main casing will b a whiter creamier colour rather than silver or get someone to stand & watch to see if the circled parts moves left to right with your steering Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 21:58

I have these on my Clubman, I do think they are slightly better than normal lights due to the beams move from wide to narrow as you get faster, but just my view and they were nearly a £900 option over Xenons!!

A video showing adaptive lights moving.......

Ian's right you can't get them in black and I don't think you can just swap due to the motors or if you can it would be very expensive......

You can also tell as they have a black area behind the washers....


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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 21:59

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Ok so I remembered it wrong and you are quite correct it did say bi-xenon rather than dual Xenon but the sales guy was wrong to say they moved with the steering wheel! So would these be the same as fitted to my R56 61 plate (but in silver rather than black?)

Yeah that's right, your xenons are the standard ones, so the same as the black ones. The adaptive headlights have a different look to them, the main noticeable difference (I think) is the part where the washer jet is - inside the light, it's a darker colour. There is also a wider gap around the main xenon part (to allow for the movement I guess). If you look at this pic, you'll hopefully see what I mean Smile



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Great thread I wanted to know this to so would the bi xenons fit on Sapphie straight swap if she's just got normal xenons NON adaptive? 

Emup the lights moving with steering is called adaptive headlights & yes these WONT FIT as there's no black alternatives. You can tell if you've got them I got told/found out either by your housing the inner main casing will b a whiter creamier colour rather than silver or get someone to stand & watch to see if the circled parts moves left to right with your steering Wink

Yeah as far as I know Dawn, the standard black xenons will fit your car as long as it doesn't have the adaptive headlights - they're basically the same light unit, but one is black and the other is silver Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 22:43

Nope defo not adaptive as we figured that out on TM the other week I wasn't sure & was gunna ask but saved me on here if there was a differnce between bi-xenons & normal xenons but if there ain't then I don't see why not Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 22:54

I'd so add those if I ordered a new one even if they are old technology!
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 23:49

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Nope defo not adaptive as we figured that out on TM the other week I wasn't sure & was gunna ask but saved me on here if there was a differnce between bi-xenons & normal xenons but if there ain't then I don't see why not Wink

All 2nd gen xenons are bi-xenons, the normal xenons were only on the 1st gen Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   14th June 2013, 23:56

Not sure why but earlier Gen2's didn't have bi-xenon written where as later ones did scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   15th June 2013, 00:02

No idea why, thought it doesn't look like Pat's does either (unless it's just the angle, and it's not visible) scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   15th June 2013, 00:15

No that's why I asked the question as saw 3 coupe today at the dealears and all had black headlights and all had bi-xenon written on them (2 cars were a 61 plate the other a 12 plate) but mine DO Not have bi-xenon written on them and they are silver so wondered if the the coupes were fitted with an upgrade cos the salesman told me they said bi-xenon because they were adaptive (but then again what does he know!)
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   15th June 2013, 00:45

Only difference is the colour of the plastic on the inside.
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   15th June 2013, 11:05

I had the ones that move with the stering fitted on my JCW at the factory

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   15th June 2013, 12:53

My last R55 never had Bi xenon written anywhere.....

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   16th June 2013, 05:40

I can confirm it definately doesn't, but they are definately Bi-Xenons!
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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   16th June 2013, 20:22

I checked mine, and they don't have bi-xenon on them either, but all 2nd gen xenons are definitely bi-xenons - it must just be the black ones that have them Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Dual Xenons   16th June 2013, 20:32

118 wrote:
I checked mine, and they don't have bi-xenon on them either, but all 2nd gen xenons are definitely bi-xenons - it must just be the black ones that have them Smile

Could be as mine have nothing but they are adaptive Smile

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