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PepperMini214

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PostSubject: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 20:07

Went out in the MINI and there is no second gear!!

It either crunches and grinds in gear with a bit of force or doesnt go in at all!! .. Is it looking likely that I am going to need a new gear box ?! Tear
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 20:25

Sounds like it. Do you have a 5 speed?
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 20:26


What year is your car if it before July 04 it will have a midland 5 speed gear box after july 04 they changed to Getrag 5 speed gear box
Midland gearboxes had lots of problems, you can retro fit a Getrag but it's a lot of work and parts.
Rebuild kits are easy to get hold of from eBay there about £250 Mark or a recon or a secondhand gear box around the £350 to £400
But it still means you strip out the gear box do the job and refit it

Does it go in to gear ok when the engine is not running or does feel notchy

But first I would get someone to check the linkages and gear change cables first then
change the gearbox oil and see if you have a lot of metal in it.
How does the clutch pedal feel does it feel soft or spongy
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 20:59

have 5 speed gear box. 2005.

clutch feels 'normal' .. goes in all other gears, just not second!!

really worried as i know nothing about these kinda things and i dont wanna get charged high prices at a garage when i have other important things to be paying for at the moment!
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 21:33

just checked to see if it goes into 2nd when engine off and wont go in at all!
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 22:35

Hi ya

Ok sound like you have a Getrag gearbox there normaly good ish
If the gear box is not noisy when your driving It, and all the other gears work ok
I would get the gear change linkages and cables checked first sometime the mounting bracket that mounts to the gearbox and hold the cables comes loose.
You may have a bad cable.
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 22:37

Jodie, try Station View Garage if you don't know anyone who can have a look for you .....

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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 22:44

Thanks! Will try get it sorted, shame that nothing can be done until the weekend as not back from work until 6:30 each night!!... which means Dave - I might not make it on Sunday for my roll Sad
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 22:52

Jodie

If you get stuck I know a good mechanic who lives in Frederick road, of gander green lane near Sutton west station.
He Lives a couple of doors down from my mum my sister get her car done buy him.
He is quite good drop the car off in the morning or after you finish work
and he will take it next day and call you when he knows or it done. never had a bad job from him

Like Dave says station view are also very good also I think they have Deal on rates for the club
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 23:03

Thanks Mark!

Just spoke to my dad, he is going to take it to the same garage that i think your talking about while im at work. His friend Terry works there..? Hopefully be sorted for the weekend and wont have to raid the piggy bank to much! Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty13th February 2012, 23:13

Jodie

No problem if it's is Kevin and the guys they do do a good job.
Hope it works out if you get stuck let us know
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty14th February 2012, 06:36

PepperMini214 wrote:
Thanks Mark!

Just spoke to my dad, he is going to take it to the same garage that i think your talking about while im at work. His friend Terry works there..? Hopefully be sorted for the weekend and wont have to raid the piggy bank to much! Surprised

If you can't get the car sorted by the weekend, we can come and get you & Ray if you wan't, just txt me and let me know Wink
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty14th February 2012, 07:57

Thanks Chris! I will let you know.. fingers crossed i will have it back for the weekend!
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty14th February 2012, 12:35

Hope it's all sorted for you Jodie and nothing major.....

If not jump in with Chris & Terry as I've still to meet you and the roll has your name on Wink

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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty15th February 2012, 17:55

Little update; MINI will need a new gearbox! pale
Dad took MINI to a number of garages today just to be sure it needed replacing and to get a good price! All quoted around £600-£800 Jaw Drop and have advised that I get a new clutch plate at the same time to save money in future! After hearing that price I was pretty speechless! Luckily a friend of my dad has sorted a deal with his local garage for it to be done at £350-£450!? This seems much more realistic to me..

All booked in tomorrow! & Fresh gearbox for Sunday fingers crossed
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty15th February 2012, 18:04

PepperMini214 wrote:
Little update; MINI will need a new gearbox! pale
Dad took MINI to a number of garages today just to be sure it needed replacing and to get a good price! All quoted around £600-£800 NO SECOND GEAR! 552013178 and have advised that I get a new clutch plate at the same time to save money in future! After hearing that price I was pretty speechless! Luckily a friend of my dad has sorted a deal with his local garage for it to be done at £350-£450!? This seems much more realistic to me..

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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty15th February 2012, 19:48

To get a gearbox and clutch done at that price is pretty exceptional.
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty15th February 2012, 20:51

Fantastic price, what about the parts?

See you Sunday Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty16th February 2012, 07:53

I know what BMW charge for a new clutch. I had to have the flywheel replaced as well and that was 4 times the price for the cost of the parts alone.
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty16th February 2012, 08:43

the man has said that price is for parts and labour. and although it is a lot of money, it needs to be done and seems to be a really good price! High

it will go to the garage today and be home on Friday fingers crossed thumbs up
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty17th February 2012, 10:45

...she's still at the garage and will be for a few more hours as while changing the gear box, they said that the clutch was 'low' so will also need replacing. Mad

so frustrating as i am on a low income ill
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty17th February 2012, 14:18

But worth doing Jodie as saves all the labour costs if done at a later date Smile

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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty17th February 2012, 14:33

When Bumble broke down, the roadside recovery guy diagnosed it was the gear selector but it was the clutch and flywheel. Are the symptoms to those individual faults similar?
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty17th February 2012, 17:29

Yeah that's why I am getting it done even if I am having to dig deep.. Saves digging deeper in future! But she should be home within the hour Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NO SECOND GEAR!   NO SECOND GEAR! Empty17th February 2012, 17:33

As Dave says, by the time you get the gearbox out you're 95% of the way to the clutch so a no brainer.
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